Anxiety
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Hello,
As some of you may be aware, there is currently a little survey going on in the PT discord asking whether or not the login screen grid-girls should be removed. Here are the current results:
As you can see, the current majority vote is to keep the grid girl there. But I do believe the results might be a little different after people look from a different perspective towards the issue.
This was the first moment that it hit me that this is a real problem:
Here we have one player who has never played Project Torque in his life. Plainly stating that the grid girl in the login screen is part of the reason that he isn't even going to give the game a chance. And he is most definitely not the only player who shares this opinion.
Like I said in that discord chat. I was once a child, raised in a rather "traditional" household with very strict rules. On multiple occasions I lost my computer privileges for days or weeks at a time because I took the risk of launching PT with my parents behind me. Knowing that if they saw that girl it would quite literally be game over for me. I always wished that the girls would be removed so that I could play the game at home around my family without getting into trouble.
And this was back in ~2007. This is before sexualization of women became the global controversy that it is today. Obviously it wasn't an issue for me directly. And I'm in absolute agreement that people should get the sticks out of their asses and stop making such big deals over nothing. Its not like you can't just walk down the street in the summer time and see even more skin than what the login grid girls are showing, right? But that's completely irrelevant to the issue at hand. Not to mention the invalidity of the argument, given the grid girls are CLEARLY in provocative sexual poses. Its more than just skin showing.
If it was purely up to me and my own personal enjoyment, and I'm sure many members of the community here would agree, I'd say add more girls! Make them even sexier! Increase the detail on those sponsor girls! But would I quit the game if there wasn't even one single beautiful girl to look at? Hell no I wouldn't. And I can confidently speak for the entire community when I say not a single person would quit the game over the fact that the grid girl is no longer in the login screen...
But, on the flipside....there are absolutely people who are boycotting the game purely because of the login girl. Sure its a niche. Realistically there would be almost 0 noticeable impact if the login girl was removed. But the fact that there is even ONE confirmed player who refuses to play the game because of the girl....How is that not enough of an argument that she should be removed? She ONLY has a negative impact on the game's growth. And at this point with such a small delicate playerbase, literally every single player counts....
Yes, you'll never be able to please everybody no matter what. But its just plain silly to not cater to the widest possible audience that we can. And that means removing the login girls.
There is a reason that fortnite removed the jiggly breast animation from female characters.
source: https://www.businessinsider.com/fortnite-season-6-breast-animation-calamity-outfit-removed-2018-9
There is a reason that overwatch removed the sexual poses from character emotes.
source: https://www.polygon.com/2016/3/28/11321138/overwatch-tracer-pose-removal
There is a reason that F1 scrapped grid-girls from REAL LIFE events.
source: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/02/formula-1-f1-grid-girls-eliminate-reaction-social-media
I don't ever want to compare apples to oranges. But can anybody tell me that this is an unfair comparison?
Obviously there is going to be a niche of people who are against such a decision, as was apparent after F1 made the call.
But, you can't please everyone, right?
At this point I see many many many reasons why the grid girls should be removed. And not one single reason why they should stay.
Hey, while I'm at it, here's yet another reason why they should be removed. Has anyone checked out the screenshots page on the steam community hub lately? No? Here's a sneak-peek for you:
Can any single person in this community honestly say that this is a good look for the game?? Is this positive advertisement??
Lets please keep this constructive. I'm more than open to being wrong. I would love to hear a single reason as to why its a good idea to keep the grid-girls in the game. Especially from a business and from a longevity perspective.
For those of you who are on my side, I encourage you to please check the #surveys channel in the PT discord and vote accordingly.
Thank you!
As some of you may be aware, there is currently a little survey going on in the PT discord asking whether or not the login screen grid-girls should be removed. Here are the current results:
As you can see, the current majority vote is to keep the grid girl there. But I do believe the results might be a little different after people look from a different perspective towards the issue.
This was the first moment that it hit me that this is a real problem:
Here we have one player who has never played Project Torque in his life. Plainly stating that the grid girl in the login screen is part of the reason that he isn't even going to give the game a chance. And he is most definitely not the only player who shares this opinion.
Like I said in that discord chat. I was once a child, raised in a rather "traditional" household with very strict rules. On multiple occasions I lost my computer privileges for days or weeks at a time because I took the risk of launching PT with my parents behind me. Knowing that if they saw that girl it would quite literally be game over for me. I always wished that the girls would be removed so that I could play the game at home around my family without getting into trouble.
And this was back in ~2007. This is before sexualization of women became the global controversy that it is today. Obviously it wasn't an issue for me directly. And I'm in absolute agreement that people should get the sticks out of their asses and stop making such big deals over nothing. Its not like you can't just walk down the street in the summer time and see even more skin than what the login grid girls are showing, right? But that's completely irrelevant to the issue at hand. Not to mention the invalidity of the argument, given the grid girls are CLEARLY in provocative sexual poses. Its more than just skin showing.
If it was purely up to me and my own personal enjoyment, and I'm sure many members of the community here would agree, I'd say add more girls! Make them even sexier! Increase the detail on those sponsor girls! But would I quit the game if there wasn't even one single beautiful girl to look at? Hell no I wouldn't. And I can confidently speak for the entire community when I say not a single person would quit the game over the fact that the grid girl is no longer in the login screen...
But, on the flipside....there are absolutely people who are boycotting the game purely because of the login girl. Sure its a niche. Realistically there would be almost 0 noticeable impact if the login girl was removed. But the fact that there is even ONE confirmed player who refuses to play the game because of the girl....How is that not enough of an argument that she should be removed? She ONLY has a negative impact on the game's growth. And at this point with such a small delicate playerbase, literally every single player counts....
Yes, you'll never be able to please everybody no matter what. But its just plain silly to not cater to the widest possible audience that we can. And that means removing the login girls.
There is a reason that fortnite removed the jiggly breast animation from female characters.
source: https://www.businessinsider.com/fortnite-season-6-breast-animation-calamity-outfit-removed-2018-9
There is a reason that overwatch removed the sexual poses from character emotes.
source: https://www.polygon.com/2016/3/28/11321138/overwatch-tracer-pose-removal
There is a reason that F1 scrapped grid-girls from REAL LIFE events.
source: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/02/formula-1-f1-grid-girls-eliminate-reaction-social-media
I don't ever want to compare apples to oranges. But can anybody tell me that this is an unfair comparison?
Obviously there is going to be a niche of people who are against such a decision, as was apparent after F1 made the call.
But, you can't please everyone, right?
At this point I see many many many reasons why the grid girls should be removed. And not one single reason why they should stay.
Hey, while I'm at it, here's yet another reason why they should be removed. Has anyone checked out the screenshots page on the steam community hub lately? No? Here's a sneak-peek for you:
Can any single person in this community honestly say that this is a good look for the game?? Is this positive advertisement??
Lets please keep this constructive. I'm more than open to being wrong. I would love to hear a single reason as to why its a good idea to keep the grid-girls in the game. Especially from a business and from a longevity perspective.
For those of you who are on my side, I encourage you to please check the #surveys channel in the PT discord and vote accordingly.
Thank you!